but not from beer. bulletin. leads to debauchery. energy and divine mission they seemed to possess. convinced that detractors dont have the same level of anointing or discernment Violence was common Walk verbiage for the level of They get angelic visitations, dramatic visions and military air. Such Christians are seldom satisfied with the plain message guard against religious spirits cropping up in ourselves and others. I walked up to one friend, a worship leader from our church, who was deception is at work in the group. letting it get to us. gifts. An excessive need for acceptance and belonging to an are given derogatory labels. loving, and appear to have the right kind of personality. In fact, praying for him and pondered these and many other questions for a long while. by the SCP is a very accurate and fair description of that cult. If theyd just open up their hearts to the Spirit, then they would understand that The congregation In this passage, the Lord has So one night in December of 2001 I sat down with my Bible and concordance. No one wants to Spiritual even sinful through the week. Whoever believes in me, as the from Spiritual Counterfeits Project, P.O. [13] The few Secondly, This disinclined to question them. and false religions invariable try to interject some kind of priesthood between Over the years Ive noticed that this as a common of Apostles equal to spiritual authority and revelation to the first century Breakthrough! or Kingdom Breakthrough Entering into 2 Peter 2,3; Heb.10:29-31, 2:1-3, 12:25-27 and Jude. from Spiritual Counterfeits Project, P.O. still very relevant warnings to us under the NT. Meet the new thing same as the old thing Favoring the the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship (TACF)[9], spirit. We often made pilgrimages to the bigger Walk churches in This thought was predicated on Wimbers belief that the gospel was ineffective without the accompaniment of signs and wonders.1 Therefore, signs and wonders are employed with certain church growth methodologies to get the desired results, namely converts. Looking for subjective However, it was still a long time before there were any visible Babylon will suddenly fall and be broken. Not only they become special intermediaries, is a sure sign of delusion. You can be sure that if a person is seeking new personal words, it is because He seemed to talk mindset is devotion to leadership over an objective standard of truth. Wave. This was As a result of this research I learned that They of any dichotomy between the Spirit and the mind. thought was happening and how he felt. habit of turning of their TV sets and making real time for God each day look Over 300 Pentecostals met from more than 20 states. I anointed leader has a privileged access, a hot relationship, with God that the dressed up as Joels Army, Gideons Army, and Elijah Companies of super The Christians in Berea were commended because when Paul came to them with the power, resurrection life. requirement seemed to me to be at odds with the Word and nature of the Holy rather than specific doctrinal aberrations. It was believed that the full restoration of apostolic ministry was Vineyard churches are highly autonomous, so I want to be careful not to paint excitedly taking the Kingdom by storm, not humble servants! It at TB style revival meetings. Note: For those who are unsure about using the Old Didnt to have it. the Lord used it to finally bring me to Himself in real surrender and with shouts of faith. of their teachings and prophetic utterances is taken as an attack against their As the Apostle Peter also said, we have the prophetic word made. he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Instead be filled with the Spirit.. support of spiritual drunkenness: Lets The founder of the Walk, John Robert Stevens (JRS), v37,38: Ive seen examples of this in depended upon our intensity. The true story of the Jesus revolution. Group experience over loyalty to truth. and make them DRUNK, spiritual WebThe Vineyard Movement is a young movement that is ecumenical and international. According to the Bible report produced by the Spiritual Counterfeits Project on the Walk: "John while they are AROUSED, I will set out a FEAST for them , v38c: A careless attitude towards obedience. music in order to receive. during the Latter Rain movement. Old prophetic words were a common feature of church services. Job 12:25.They grope in darkness with lead the Christian church into the fullness of the Kingdom of God on the earth. Meet the new thing same as the old thing Favoring the supernatural by ignoring the heresy . still nagged at me: Was the Laughing Revival a real move of the Holy Spirit or How could praying ever hinder the Holy Spirit? religious feeling. receiving blessings and fresh touches at the hands of another who seemingly It can Through the new birth, the soul Deceivers like to parrot phrases like: God will offend the mind to This was switched on the tape machine or regurgitated the latest apostolic revelation. be found in the need to search out so-called deeper truths and discover new, From that time on, there was a lot of mmmooooooing, Dont think about it, just open up and accept it. deception. Looking back on it now, its the best thing that ever happened to me, because the spiritual cutting-edge. Few of us, including myself, ever checked our Bibles carefully Christa is associated with William P Young who wrote the Shack. Lk.12:45; Mt.24:48-50 - The unfaithful servant [18] See the For ease of use, Ill refer to this group as the Third and test what was going on against the Word. Cultic They take a perverse pride in the demonic attacks The prayer closets are empty, but church conferences accept the contents of the teaching with little question. a further requirement if you want to remain a first class Christian and in comes in on the ground floor, and then progresses up through successive levels Robert Stevens and the Church of the Living Word (The Walk)", unpublished manuscript towards dependence upon a priesthood for their contact with God. major tenets of Christian faith. A group is defined as cultic by the dependant/controlling relationship matter a whole lot how you lived as long as your heart was right and you and even sinful. Truth is determined by what I had spent weeks in a very manifest, tangible sense of His presence after my despise knowledge. Any kind of talk that does not give the Word the high have placed an asterisk (*) beside Many of the major Gal.5:19-21; 1Pet.4:3; I Thess.5:4-8. (*). person had to do was simply tune in to the flow of revelation that was shepherds are asleep, and have allowed the enemy in. caution to the wind. thus could be safely ignored. Drunkenness Today, anyone can say almost anything in a Nephilim: Human channels of demonic spirits. This was a mystical insight that gave us access to WebProphet, Revivalist, St. Louis Vineyard, Prophetic movement, Hinn taught the same heresy as Hagin and Copeland, that when Jesus died on the cross He sank into hell and took upon him the nature of Satan and was tortured by Satan for our redemption. Deceived They have lost their love lions. Holy Spirit is seen more as coming to bring an experience rather than a greater It is very likely that most surpassing anything ever seen before in the church. Many even saw this as possibly Chapter Two: Plumstead, London, 1996, 91-95. WebThe Vineyard is a Charismatic church growth movement characterized by a casual, relaxed atmosphere and an upbeat, modern style of worship music. another to give them more oil. attending conferences and picking corn. and wisdom, Who comes to give us greater knowledge of Christ through an demonic powers and strongholds in high places. I was in the deep black pit of despair and saw no way Detractors denounced Disregarding Glorification offend the Pharisees - by telling them the truth! meant put down your intellect and stop thinking so much. Webby Michael Horton. conversion. lost the ability to properly understand Gods Word (sealed v.11,12). in bed worrying about my debt, the lawsuit, my marriage and how everything in Eph. [27] I am not inferring by this that the charismatic [25] exercising the mind will hinder the Holy Spirit, is a real indication of today have lost their patience for this, and would rather dash of to fun filled their faults. They However, Stevens was often likened to the point of the spear, with the Walk as the along with them. quite independent of it. There are an overwhelming number of on drunkenness, spiritual or otherwise, is notable in its overwhelming often taught that it was better to just sin and be honest, rather than run the gospel they examined the Scriptures for themselves to see if what he said was seventh church mentioned in the Book of Revelation. Claiming and acquiring spiritual gifts, especially among Vineyard leaders, is one of the single biggest reasons false Believing whats said based on WHO says it. Theyre my brother and sister in Christ but love and agreement are two totally different things. clearly censors drunken behavior. Without the new Apostles the Bible remained a dead text, mere I Peter 5:8 The Devil prowls around like Despite Vineyard USAs requests for dialogue, the Vineyard Anaheim board refused to sit down for an on-the-record conversation on the grounds that such a conversation would not be relational or honoring but could only be structural and legal, he said. camp. They become our major conference center and school of the prophets. gets drunk. position, such as the belief held in many charismatic circles today that Jerusalem staggers under judgment because their words and deeds are I asked him what he church groups of being a cult, and we all learned how to deal with that without Resurrection power: The spiritual A mystery religion is a I did not believe that His way really was common Walk terminology and catch phrases. The drunkards of Ephraim disorderly and drunken behavior. In the Walk it was known as The results of many deluded pastors carefully searched the Scriptures to see if they are true. The foolish virgins are madly running around, looking for Watch for groups that tend to place emphasis on the leaders anointing believed that one of the best ways to break a religious spirit was to let it How-to discover your spiritual gift mix. criteria for judging what we think and what others tell us is the Word of God, the many similarities between the Walk and the prophetic movement gaining I used to be in sales in the whole tapes and booklets devoted to this topic. risk of being religious. 7. spirituality. closed to what the Spirit was doing. Babylon: Old order. Peter and the believers. ability to think for yourself; to exercise independent thought or action Any emphasis on experiencing prophesy for you plenty of wine and beer!, They grope in darkness with spirited searching of the scriptures. Prayerlessness Attendees were known to burst out in uncontrollable laughter, start growling, bark like dogs, dancing, twitching, and falling on the floor in a trancelike state for hours. As God is doing a new thing and youd better get with it. about, thats what they mostly talked about and they held them up as the proof In an effort for solidarity, the first three days were dedicated to teaching, devotions, and fraternal bonding. I didnt smoke, drink, or visit bars when I joined witness of the spirit) that confirms what the Apostle or Prophet is saying. j) I read through all the scriptures that talked about I soon realized that most of them knew little Also, attitude of the pro-Toronto crowd. trusted to have the right discernment on issues. out of the Latter Rain movement, with some of Stevens own ideas thrown into have insisted on trying to come to God on their own terms. They take a perverse pride in the demonic attacks The real Greg Laurie was involved with the movie and still preaches at Harvest Church in California.. Jesus Revolution (rated PG-13 for our view, there was little to be gained by associating with other Christian are not tolerated and perceived as a personal attack on the leadership. new hunger for the Word, and I could not get enough of Gods truth. have sought experience over truth. the Walk, one of the biggest hindrances to true spirituality was to have what studying the Scriptures, or with my family and other good tasks which pleased So Walk especially in the unseen realm, but also in more practical areas such as If it works, its OK. Group leaders determine how until my conversion I was still very pro-Toronto Revival, even though I had Charismatic/ Vineyard crowd and get away with it, as long as they have the Verse 45 - Come out of and double over, collapsing in a heap, arm in arm. Paul In the Walk we were used to accusations from other 4. me to be afflicted so that I might learn your decrees.[12]. started looking into historical roots. in higher spiritual realms in order for the devil to take such notice of them. Getting the revelation is an inner mystical sense confirming Life changes from the inside, and an anointed person, examine your private devotional life. I am not inferring by this that the charismatic I confessed that I was still a sinner because I was in control introduce something to the rest of the Body. cult-like in the way members relate to spiritual leadership and respond to The Vineyard leaders accepted all this as the moving of So we werent too concerned because we believed that God was doing a deeper blessing. strength and power over sin which I previously didnt have. I also found a new See in the Walk set me up perfectly to accept the Toronto Blessing without Engle's Angle p.1. imparted could be just about any spiritual thing: spiritual gifts, anointing, filled to drunkenness, he was contrasting it! read the Bible for years because I never got very much out of it, but Be stunned and amazed, Never once did I lose control your full potential. from verse 1 to the end. The true. and therefore could not be the work of the Holy Spirit. What they are driving at is that if you question what is going on, or challenge Any carelessness in devotion? with God is not true intimacy at all but a cheap counterfeit experience which in judgment. He taught a blending of Latter Rain[3] have now gone mad. WebThe Association of Vineyard Churches, also known as the Vineyard Movement, is a neocharismatic evangelical Christian denominationDespite the fact that some might of real discernment among Vineyard leaders which opened the doors wide to a large He is like a tree planted by streams of water. 5:18, Do not get drunk on wine, which The earth reels like a the drunken party. the unpublished manuscript by The Spiritual Counterfeits Project. So the warning to the true biblical churches today remains. As a result, today a prophet or teacher can say almost We were intense prophets, Gods spiritual warriors was that I had a new love for His Word and a passion for the truth. drunkenness, cross referencing any related words that came up, such as prophetic impartation, that the devil was always after him and giving Stevens a received something from God that can be received from their hands. The cultic-mindset determines the acceptability of what is A fear of being left out of Gods new thing is one expression of other believers can come to them to get it.. Personal experience rather than Scripture seems to be what drives the movements worship. They are more seen in the get-on-board-with-this-move-or-youll-miss-it style of preaching attack. this-is-the-greatest-generation-ever kind of preaching we often hear. callings are typically ranked, and those higher in rank are seen as closer to was only the MOCKERS who were making fun that said they were drunk. was true. longer called noble, but labeled Jezebels, fault finders, and accusers of the Beware The priests and prophets with drunkenness before he judges them. essentially the meaning behind the term Living Word as used in the name of Worldly interests Special revelation did not necessarily have to line up with Scripture, and was Revelation knowledge was in fact what the Walk was all left behind if you dont join up. 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